211565812 Guillaume 1er DE GENÈVE
(1131/1137-1196)
211565813 Béatrix DE FAUCIGNY
(Bef 1155-After 1184)
211565814 Guy III DE FOREZ
(Abt 1160-1202)
211565815 Alix DE XXX
(Bef 1165-Bef 1222)
105782906 Guillaume II DE GENÈVE
(Bef 1180-1252)
105782907 Xxx DE FOREZ
(Bef 1195-Bef 1215)

52891453 M... DE GENÈVE
(Bef 1215-After 1274)

 

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1. 52891452 Artaud IV DE ROUSSILLON

52891453 M... DE GENÈVE

  • Born: Bef 1215
  • Marriage (1): 52891452 Artaud IV DE ROUSSILLON before 1238
  • Died: After 1274

  General Notes:

[M--- ([before 1223]-[Nov 1262/Jun 1270]). The wife of Artaud [IV] Seigneur de Roussillon is referred to in the charter dated May 1251 which records the donation to the priory of Saint-Sauveur-en-Rue of "molendinum de Givret juxta las Moleyres" and the appointment of "dominum Artaudum et Vuilielmum filium suum de Rossilion et Guigoni Pagani dominum d'Argentau" as guarantors, and was witnessed by "domina M. comitissa uxor prædicti domini Artaudi de Rossilion"[137]. A charter dated 7 Aug 1274 records the confirmation of the donation of "molendinum de Givret juxta las Moleyras" and names "Artaudi domini de Rossilione, Gulielmi de Rossilione, et…dominæ M. comitissæ uxoris prædicti domini Artaudi de Rossilione et Guigonis Pagani"[138]. Vachez states that Artaud [IV]'s wife was "Marie"[139], although he cites no primary source which indicates that "M" in the source quoted above represents an abbreviation for "Maria". Her possible family origin provides an intriguing puzzle. A close family connection between the Roussillon family and the Forez family is indicated by the testament of "Raynaudus comes Forensis et dominus Bellijoci", dated Jun 1270, which names "Guidonem consanguinem meum dominum de Tyerno" as his heir in substitution and states that, if he inherits, he should provide for "domino Guidoni de Tyerno consanguineo meo canonicus Lugdunensis…Hugoni de Tyerno consanguineo meo fratri eiusdem canonici Guidonis…consanguineo meo domino Ano domino d'Oliergue…Guillelmo de Rossilione consanguineo meo" (the last-named being identified as the son of Artaud [IV] Seigneur de Roussillon)[140]. The Roussillon/Forez relationship is confirmed by the charter dated Nov 1262, under which "Artaud sire de Roussillon…Aymar, Amédée, Alyse et Beatrix ses enfants" donated their rights "sur la succession de feu Guy comte de Forez" to "Guillaume fils dudit Artaud"[141][142]. The possible relationship between the Roussillon and Genève families is also explained fully above under "M---"'s mother. If all the speculations are correct, as explored further above, Artaud's wife would be the daughter of Guillaume [II] Comte de Genève] & his [first] wife --- de Forez. It should be emphasised that this is speculative, and that other alternatives are possible, particularly if the Roussillon/Forez relationship was through Artaud himself and not his wife. One last point concerns the title "comitissa" accorded to Artaud's wife in the 1251 and 1274 sources which are quoted above. There are two possible explanations. Firstly, the word could suggest that "M---" was the widow of an unidentified "comes" when she married Artaud, and retained the title as a matter of courtesy after her [second] marriage. It is unlikely that she would have held the title in her own right as heiress to a "comes", as there is no record of the title being transmitted to her son. Secondly, if Artaud's wife was related to the Genève family, "comitissa" could have been a corruption of "Contesson/Comtessone", a family nickname which was used by "Beatrix dite Comtessone" another possible daughter of Guillaume [II] Comte de Genève who is named below. [m firstly --- Comte, son of ---.] m [secondly] ([before 1238]) ARTAUD [IV] Seigneur de Roussillon, son of ARTAUD [III] Seigneur de Roussillon & his wife Alix de Glâne ([1200/05]-after 1270).]
Source: fmg.ac

  Birth Notes:

Son père se remarie avant 1215
Source: fmg.ac

  Death Notes:

Citée en 1274
Source: fmg.ac


M... married 52891452 Artaud IV DE ROUSSILLON, son of 105782904 Artaud III DE ROUSSILLON and 105782905 Alix DE GLENNE, before 1238. (52891452 Artaud IV DE ROUSSILLON was born about 1200-1205 and died after 1270.)


  Marriage Notes:

Source: fmg.ac

F. Ferran 30-11-2024


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